Published on March 25, 2025  
 Transcript
GordonBals

Dean Doug Sweeney sits down with Gordon Bals, who leads Beeson's Master of Arts in Christian Counseling, and MACC student Jeffrey Heine, who earned both an MDiv and DMin at Beeson prior to coming back for MACC studies.

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The theme music is written and performed by Advent Birmingham.

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